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Offline Jims

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HB 4384
« on: January 18, 2008, 02:30:57 AM »
Rep. Robert Molaro is my hero. He believes very strongly in second chances for children given life sentences before they were 18. On January 11, 2008, he introduced Hbefore384. He faces much opposition (as he did with HB1695 last year)  - the sympathy will always be with victims' family members. And too many people give in to knee-jerk reactions rather than researching the issue. I will write more about this issue, perhaps ad nauseam, until the law is changed in Illinois:

SYNOPSIS OF Hbefore384:
Amends the Unified Code of Corrections. Provides that a person who has been sentenced to life without possibility of parole for a crime committed when he or she was under 18 years of age may, after serving 10 years of his or her sentence, submit an Application for Review and Assessment. Provides that the application shall be submitted to the applicant's Illinois Department of Corrections counselor, who shall, within 30 days after receipt of the application, forward the application to the Prisoner Review Board together with the applicant's criminal history sheet, mittimus, disciplinary history, supplementary program considerations, mental health evaluations, social evaluations, evidence of physical abuse and drug abuse prior to the offense, and any other documents the counselor considers relevant. Provides that the Prisoner Review Board, acting through a committee of at least 3 members, shall undertake a review and assessment of the applicant and shall determine, by majority vote, whether the applicant should be certified as eligible to seek release to parole from the Prisoner Review Board. Provides that the Prisoner Review Board, after consideration of information from the State's Attorney, may require a prisoner who has satisfactorily met the conditions for release to serve a reasonable parole term. Provides that the Application for Review and Assessment shall be prescribed by the Prisoner Review Board. Provides that the application may be submitted every 2 years.

PLEASE CONTACT REP. ROBERT MOLARO IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL:

Springfield Office:
245-E Stratton Office Building
Springfield, IL   62706
(217) 782-5280
District Office:
6245 S. Archer Avenue
Chicago, IL  60638
(773) 838-1212
(708) 354-0743 FAX
Cook County
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Re: HB 4384
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2008, 06:20:34 AM »
That is awesome.  I know it's going to be a tough battle, as is the elderly release bill.  Didn't the bill last year call for 25 years? 
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Re: HB 4384
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2008, 08:00:45 AM »
Yes. I had no idea they were lowering it to 10. Perhaps as a negotiating point, eh?
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Re: HB 4384
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2008, 09:35:09 AM »
Thanks so much for the information I will send this to my son he is going to be so happy just knowing someone is thinking about this. He has been in already for 10 years and knows this is going to take time but it does give us all hope. Is there a petition I could take around to have signed or what can I do to help?

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Re: HB 4384
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2008, 09:37:51 AM »
No, not yet. But have friends write to Rep. Molaro supporting the bill. Later on when I have a little time, I'll write up a letter that can be printed out, signed and forwarded to Rep. Molaro and the committee. It is especially important that they receive letters of support from the community at large.
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Re: HB 4384
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2008, 09:41:56 PM »
This bill is scheduled for a public hearing next Tuesday, February 25, at 4:30 p.m. There is much misunderstanding and opposition to the bill from victims family members. Please call the offices of Rep. Molaro as well as other committee members in support of this bill. Rep. Chapin Rose is one of the staunch opponents and his office needs to know there is public support for this change.

Robert Molaro
Springfield Office:
245-E Stratton Office Building
Springfield, IL   62706
(217) 782-5280

District Office:
6245 S. Archer Avenue
Chicago, IL  60638
(773) 838-1212
(708) 354-0743 FAX
Cook County

Link to the Committee Members:
http://www.ilga.gov/house/committees/members.asp?CommitteeID=542&GA=95
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Re: HB 4384
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2008, 10:31:28 PM »
I am so glad to hear that some folks are supportive of giving
young people second chances.  I tried to talk to Chuck
Jefferson (Rep from Rockford - not mine thank goodness)
about this and got the cold shoulder.  He said he believed
in educating young people instead of giving them concessions
and letting them out. Sounds like he doesn't favor rehabilitation
either.

I'll be watching the progress of this bill.

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Re: HB 4384
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2008, 02:43:33 PM »
The hearing has been changed to Wednesday at 4:00.
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Re: HB 4384
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2008, 03:07:41 PM »
Jims, do we need to make calls, an email sent out?
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Re: HB 4384
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2008, 04:45:48 PM »
I do know that our friendly opposition will be making phone calls. Let's do send out an email to our people and see what they can do!
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Re: HB 4384
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2008, 03:30:45 PM »
Although I would much rather they get rid of juvenile LWOP altogether, I am all for this bill !!

I wouldn't have really known anything about this issue until I saw the PBS Frontline program about juvenile LWOP.  It broke my heart !!!  I think you can watch it online.  It's a must-see.  Have a box of kleenex handy and prepared to be depressed for a few days.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/whenkidsgetlife/

Here's an IPT thread about the program:  http://www.illinoisprisontalk.org/index.php/topic,6458.0.html

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Re: HB 4384
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2008, 08:22:52 AM »
It looks as if this bill will not go to a committee vote today. I won't know until late this afternoon, but I doubt I'll drive up there on the slim chance it gets a hearing and then a vote.
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Re: HB 4384
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2008, 04:12:02 PM »
Hey Jims and others, you might want to add comments to this Daily Herald story published on Feb 14.  Check out the horrible comments there already.

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=134588&#storycomments

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Re: HB 4384
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2008, 06:35:16 PM »
There are similarly vile comments on every story the media has run. I replied to one of them and then I realized that the people who are replying are hateful and very, very ignorant people. I guarantee you they haven't read the study put out by the Illinois Coalition for the Fair Sentencing of Children. I guarantee you they haven't put in the time to research the subject even a little before making their asinine comments. They wouldn't be open to what I had to tell them, either. They are of a very simple mindset. I have to laugh every time Jennifer Bishop Jenkins writes a reply to them and thanks them for their support. She's got the support of some very stupid people and they're not worth my time quite frankly.

Here are a few of the comments to just one of the stories in the Chicago Tribune following the release of the study:

cut their lil balls off and lock them up for life ....ha ha

I truly hope that if these liberal dirt bags are able to get one of these monsters freed that it will move in next door to them and perpetrate their next heinous crime on a member of their family.

I think these little mini-murderrers and the liberal lunatics that support their release should all be executed. Wouldn't it be nice to see one of these supporters get taken out by one of the little murderous kiddies they support? Haha!

Better yet, the only thing these punks deserve is a dull knife thrust into their throats and then leave them to bleed out


It makes me very sad to realize there are so many sick and hateful people out there - and they're not always the ones who are locked up. I've spent this week sitting across from a man who has more compassion in his little finger than those heartless creatures who wrote those vile replies have. I've been writing an editorial for the past couple of weeks, but I'm so terribly disheartened by the public response that I feel like, what's the point? I think on this board there are only a couple of members who are directly affected by this bill.
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Re: HB 4384
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2008, 11:12:51 PM »
Jims, what you have said here is so very true.  Most of the people opposing have absolutely no clue what they are talking about.

Please finish writing the editorial and let us have the pleasure of reading it.   Someone will listen........and what you are fighting for is the RIGHT thing!  People deserve a second chance!  Especially people like Jim who was locked up so very young.  

I have to believe that some how, some way, the right thing is going to prevail.    

These ignorant people need to be reminded of our Illinois Constitution that says that inmates are to be kept incarcerated WITH the intent to rehabilitate them and return them to society.   What part of locking them up for life coincides with that?  
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Re: HB 4384
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2008, 11:29:58 PM »
I agree with Sister, Jims, don't give up.  Keep writing the
editorial.  How will they know if we give up and don't try
to educate them.  If just one person gets the point of
your editorial, it will be worth it.

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Re: HB 4384
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2008, 08:25:44 AM »
Thanks for the support. The hearing has been rescheduled for next Wednesday. So maybe I'll finish up my editorial and post it.
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